Thursday, 14 June 2018
Thirty Years Reflections on the Ten Attributes of Great Investors
Read? Thirty Years Reflections on the Ten Attributes of Great Investors
CW8888: How can retail investors fully practice this position sizing well across volatile market cycles?
9. Position sizing (maximizing the payoff from edge).
Puggy Pearson was a cigar-chomping gambling legend who won the World Series of Poker and was one of the world’s best pool players. When asked about his success, Pearson said, “Ain’t only three things to gambling: Knowin’ the 60-40 end of a proposition, money management, and knowin’ yourself.”
Great investors take to heart all three of Pearson’s points, but money management is the one that gets the least attention in the discourse on investment practice.
The book Bringing Down the House by Ben Mezrich tells the story of a half dozen students from MIT who deployed a card counting system to make lots of money in Las Vegas. Their system had two parts. The first was the method for counting cards. Here, members of the team fanned out to different tables and developed a signal to indicate when the odds looked good. But the second part of the system is commonly overlooked. The team members knew exactly how much to bet given the odds at the table and the size of their bankroll.
Similarly, success in investing has two parts: finding edge and fully taking advantage of it through proper position sizing. Almost all investment firms focus on edge, while position sizing generally gets much less attention.
(CW8888: It can be easily understood across market cycles by common wisdom in the investment sphere that it is never wrong to take good profits and leave a smaller position to ride the future market. Position sizing is never easy when we are sitting on giant gains. We will start feeling the emotional pain when market turns against us as we don't like losing!
Read? When a Giant Gain Causes Pain (4)
Position sizing is far more difficult in practice for retail investors as it is more than just the theoretical or Mathematical part of limiting your position sizing to 10% or less to control risks and damage. How do we sit on giant gains without worrying too much of losing back?
High doses of Panadols to cause illusion of not losing or
simply don't bother anymore since we will never lose our hard earned saving or
compartmentalize our money e.g. house money effect/OPM
Read? House Money Effect Bias : The Little Lie We Tell Ourselves. It Helps To Calm Our Investing Mind Across Market Cycles
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Sunday, 17 February 2019
Beyond Position Sizing; It Is Growth Dividend Across Volatile Market Cycles To Keep Your Winners In The Game
Read? Execution, Position Sizing and Financially Irresponsible Stock Positions
"You give some people whose job is to invest money, and by a lot of standards they are good at it.
Shockingly only 49% of their picks made money. Some of them was successful only 30% of the time.
At the end of these, almost non of them lost money. They still made a lot of money out of it. "
Uncle8888 also has losers like Noble And Hyflux; but overall he is still surviving as of today!
Position sizing may save us from destruction of our portfolio when we are wrong; but as retail investors who are full of emotions of greed and fear over volatile market cycles; we need something more than just beyond position sizing when we are right.
Some investing strategy that is inherent to keep us in the Game.
Luckily; Uncle8888 somehow managed to seize it and profit from it.
Growth-dividend investing strategy?
and NOT those income stocks that keep coming back for right issues as part of their business model and rarely give out special dividends to reward loyal shareholders!
Outsize special dividends are damn shiok to earlier investors who have bought at much lower price.
Saturday, 18 May 2019
如何賣股的問題 會買是徒弟,會賣是師父。 賣股永遠是最難的一課,是否有一個完美賣股ABC
Monday, 2 October 2017
Secret Of Secret Behind Position Sizing???
RayNg1 October 2017 at 08:05:00 GMT+8
SMOL "If you tell your readers your 10 bagger Keppel or Sembawang is only 1000 shares each, they will go, "Cheh!"
LOL!
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Yes, beside getting it right and hold, the sizing is also equally important.
Position sizing?
Your account size really matters!
Account size?
Your earned income and saving rate really matters!
Earned income?
Your progressive career path really matters!
Progressive career?
Your bosses really matter!
Bosses?
Don't ever offend your bosses!
Saturday, 21 May 2022
Of Course We Are Not Afraid Of Losses Due To Our Position Sizing BUT ... (2)
Read? Of Course We Are Not Afraid Of Losses Due To Our Position Sizing BUT ...
Any Unrealized Profits or Losses will always affect our investment performance at ATH to next CRASH; and then how many years it will take for us to recover that CRASH from ATH to the next new ATH?
So is any unrealized profits or losses REAL or not?
It took 8 years to reach new ATH in 2007 from 2000 and just one year to drop -53% from an ATH; and then it took another 9 years to hit the next new ATH in 2018!
9 Lost years!
How many lost years can we afford in the market?
So is any unrealized profits or losses REAL or not?
Don't ask retirees as realized profits always are their retirement income for spending!
Tuesday, 31 December 2019
Dec 2019 Investing Performance Report : 20 Years in local SGX stock market only (6)
Read? Dec 2019 Investing Performance Report : 20 Years in local SGX stock market only (5)
Many investment Trainers like to use back-testing data points to convince people that their specially developed methodology will work in the future.
Like that ah!
20 years of data points and back-testing
Read? Peter Lynch on His Secret to Superior Returns
Uncle8888's 20 years of data points by back-testing; it also provided the evidence that it is worth the time, effort, patience, and discipline to build larger war chest and systematically deploys this war chest with right position sizing over a bigger number of stocks particularly fallen blue chips during market crash.
Position sizing for each counter has to be right; and the number of different counters to diversify across the market crash will depend on fire power of our war chest.
Simpler to execute???

Wednesday, 21 September 2016
More Than Position Sizing and Diversification . Add In Timing The Market and Time In Market. Be Active before becoming Passive!
Read? Position Sizing and Diversification
Active or Passive?
Choose Active and progressively ending as Passive to enjoy the fruits of your Money Tree; BUT in life seldom there is Free Lunch. You like free lunch or breakfast try to visit some known temples or churches that provide them.
Testimonial?
See what you see and see it closely.
Winners, Losers, Non-performing. Catch them all.
It is like Pokémon Go. Catch them all; otherwise how to get those rare ones?
Saturday, 14 January 2023
Stop-loss, Cut-loss for Switching Horses and Position Sizing and NO Leverage! (2)
Wah! Uncle8888 was very surprised when he read If I am a dividend investor, this is what I would do….
4. No earn no sell especially for dividend stock. Keep long term, no stop loss policy because point 1 is followed.
This rule is contrary to what most people would do. No cut loss policy.
I have learnt this rule from Createwealth8888. If you didn’t do any leverage/plan allocation well (Rule 3) and only buy good stocks that let you sleep well (Rule 1), there is no need for you to cut loss.
Price drop, just hold and collect dividends as Panadols. Throughout the years, treat the dividend (or simply use the Trading around Core Strategy – Rule 5 below) to reduce the average cost of your shares. The worst case is stock goes to zero or in most case, your average cost will be reduced over time.
Read? Stop-loss, Cut-loss for Switching Horses and Position Sizing and NO Leverage!
Monday, 16 May 2022
Of Course We Are Not Afraid Of Losses Due To Our Position Sizing BUT ...
Uncle8888 has truly learnt this Lesson in GFC 2008. Of course; he was not afraid of unrealized losses due to strict position sizing of NOT more than 10% of his total capital in any one counter. He knew he would not be wiped out due to losses in any counter. BUT; when unrealized losses in his portfolio started to escalate and escalate faster in mid 2008. His ball dropped and nightmares began when he realized the next few years of higher expenses for his two children university education! Lost his job! Money how?
Read? Soon ... The Greatest Relief Is I have Sold!!! (2) --> Uncle8888 has learned this painful lessons in 2008 GFC for his two children university fund where he was forced to cut his losses in Nov 2008 due to fear of Depression 2.0 to raise $80K in cash to ready this uni fund for his children starting their first semester in Jul 2009.
Read? More money probably won't make us significantly happier???
Read? Turnaround from your chart 2008-2012?
Saturday, 16 June 2012
How to become rich in stocks???
For two simple reasons:
One, Their mind: The difference in Investing mind and Trading mind can be startling and that may prevent many retail traders to become rich in stocks.
Famous stop-loss strategy: 2% and 6% Rules and Trailing stops!!!
Have you come across any successful retail traders who proudly and loudly tell you that they don't have stop-loss and trailing stops???
These stop-loss and trailing stop rules are self-limiting to protect traders against losses and limiting huge profits in endless market cycles of Bull and Bear. Finally, the market action by itself will stop out their winning or losing positions either by stop-loss rules or trailing stops.
Second, Their winning position sizing:
It is quite common for successful retail investors to hold winning position size that is X% or XX% of their Net Worth. Read again. It is NET WORTH!!!
Get it or not?
It is X% or XX% of their Net Worth. Right sizing of winning position that counts!!!

Have you ever heard of successful retail trader holding position size of X% or XX% of their net worth?
Uncle8888's advice to anyone want to become rich in stocks by creating wealth from the stock market, learn to be successful retail investor like Bunny on the Left side. This picture is so obvious to understand unless you really have poor eyesight hor!
You can trade for some income. No problem. But, you must invest to become rich in stocks for two simple reasons. No meh???

Saturday, 24 September 2016
Singapore Blue Chips and STI ETF
Read? Position Sizing and Diversification
Quote from SMOL :
Saturday, 30 April 2022
Take Risks : Investment Portfolio Management And Position Sizing
Read? Take Risks
Yes! Especially true for investing strategies!
Winners lead!
Losers guide!
Position sizing is critical for winners to lead and losers to guide to stay alive in the market!
See losers chopped fingers and NOT guide!
Read? Do You Know Any Mederka Generation Relatives Who Don't Talk About Market Any More???
Saturday, 8 October 2022
Saturday, 10 October 2009
Portfolio Management - Stop Losses?
What is Stop Loss?
Setting a stop-loss for x% below the price you paid for the stock will limit your loss to x%. This strategy allows investors to determine their loss limit in advance, preventing emotional decision-making.
What are the Guru's recommendation of Stop Loss?
Alexander Elder strongly believes in (the 2% and 6% rules).
William O'Neil: Whenever a stock is bought, a tight stop loss of 7-8% is set below the purchase price. No matter what the reason for the decline, each stock should be sold without hesitation if it drops down to or below this limit.
Many traders and active investors follow closely the classic text book and Guru's advice and follow strict stop loss strategy. But, unfortunately I am a DUMMY and I don't use STOP LOSS.
I do CUT LOSS. But, CUT LOSS is different from STOP LOSS. STOP LOSS means when price of your stock that you have purchased falls and hits your STOP Loss level, you sell it.
I do cut losses to recover capital and redeploy the recovered capital to other stocks, but it is not related to the falling stock price. I don't need to win back in the same manner that I have lost.
One day in 2008, a guy came to this cbox and said: "Bro, do you have stop loss and you are holding a losing position for too long!"
I replied: "Bro, I don't use stop loss"
I don't believe when the price of a stock falls after purchase means it is approaching towards STOP LOSS. Why must it be so? Because the text books say so or the Gurus say so.
A medical doctor who is very passionate in trading said:
I don't use stops. Here is why?
I agreed with this doctor and I am so happy that I am not the ONLY FOOL who don't follow Guru's advice on stop loss.
Why I don't use STOP LOSS too? My reasons.
Digest this and fully UNDERSTAND what the Doctor is prescribing:
"What I learned was that I needed to learn how to manage my own risk without using stops. Using stops is asking an external tool (the stop itself) to manage your risk. You always have to pay to have someone else or something else manage your risk, and the flip side of that is that you get paid for managing your own risk.
This is the concept behind mortgage pricing. Fixed 30 year mortgages cost more because the institution is managing the risks involved with interest rate fluctuations. In contrast, for a 1 year variable loan, you as the borrower carry that risk, and you pay less for your money over the long term for doing that.
Anyway, I am digressing. In terms of the market, you need to learn how to carry your own risk. I do this in my own account by making sure that my position sizing is relatively small amount based on the variability of the stock relative to my account size."
Like the Doctor, instead of using STOP LOSS to manage risks, I manage risks from different perspectives. I have trained myself very hard to look at Portfolio and not at stock. A few falling stocks may not impose a big risk to me. There are few important things to note:
1. I don't use any Leverages
2. I am using cash that are not needed for next 5-7 years.
3. I have enough emergency fund
4. I will only hold on to falling blue chips that Temasek or White Knights are likely to come to rescue
Many days later in 2008 after that guy who has asked: "Bro, do you have stop loss and you are holding a losing position for too long!"
Another woman (she is now known as SuperMum) came and asked at another cbox asked: "Do anyone use stop loss?"
Please help yourself to read the rest of the posts related to Portfolio Management.
http://createwealth8888.blogspot.com/search/label/Education%20-%20Trading%20-%20Portfolio%20Management
So do you want to join the fellowship? Let me know. LOL.I told her the reasons why I don't use. OMG, she became a disciple of NO STOP LOSS strategy. But, before you also get excited and want to join the FELLOWSHIP OF NO STOP LOSSES.
Monday, 23 September 2013
3M's - Method, Money, Mind (3)
Read? 3M's - Method, Money, Mind (2)
The most important thing in Money is Position Sizing. This will determine whether you are going to become rich in stocks or not.
Your position sizing matters!
But, that will depend on your Account Size.
Now Your Account Size really matters!
Read? Your account size
Sunday, 16 March 2008
I do not Use Stops Here is Why...
Reproduced here:
Don't Use Stops, Here's Why...
Posted on 03/01/2007 08:08:15 | Link | Post Comment
One rule that we often hear as traders is to, “always use protective stops” on every trade. When I first started trading about 7 years ago, I did not use stops. At the time, I had several trades that had collapsed because of “unexpected bad news.” One bad trade would sometimes cost me 5-10% of my total account value. As I looked back at my account statements, I would think--“if it wasn’t for this 1 bad trade, I would have done pretty well this month.”
Unfortunately, I quickly realized that those “bad trades” are just part of trading; you can’t avoid them. It’s just impossible. Soon, I read some of the wonderful books by Bill O’Neil who professes that you must have a 7-8% stop on every trade so that you can never lose too much money on any one single trade. I felt enlightened. I felt that all of those “bad trades” that I had had would soon go away and that my “true” performance could finally shine through.
What I learned was that the “bad trades” did for the most part, go away, but many of my successful trades went away too. In the end, my trading performance became even worse than during the time before I was using the stops. I began “stopping out” on lots of trades. To anyone that has been through this, you quickly realize that compounding 7% (or even 2% for that matter) losses causes your account to go down fairly quickly. So even though, you can’t get “too hurt” on any one trade, you can get very hurt by lots of small losses on many “bad trades.”
This led to my next revelation. Brace yourself. What if I did the exact opposite of what I was doing? If I was dying a slow death from having “protective stops” on all of my trades--I thought... what if I got rid of the “protective stops,” and made all of of my trades have limit sell orders (for a gain).
In other words, I let my losers run, and I stopped out of my winners. Heresy! Guess what--it worked. All I did was create a trading plan that was the opposite of everyone else’s. The biggest problem with doing this, is that I couldn’t stomach it. It only made sense, that eventually I would be a loser. Well, all in all, I was a winner. But, this experience began my pursuit of a trading style without using stops.
What I learned was that I needed to learn how to manage my own risk without using stops. Using stops is asking an external tool (the stop itself) to manage your risk. You always have to pay to have someone else or something else manage your risk, and the flip side of that is that you get paid for managing your own risk.
This is the concept behind mortgage pricing. Fixed 30 year mortgages cost more because the institution is managing the risks involved with interest rate fluctuations. In contrast, for a 1 year variable loan, you as the borrower carry that risk, and you pay less for your money over the long term for doing that.
Anyway, I am digressing. In terms of the market, you need to learn how to carry your own risk. I do this in my own account by making sure that my position sizing is relatively small amount based on the variability of the stock relative to my account size.
In other words, for the time frame that I trade, 1-14 days--I look back and make sure that if the worst move that has ever happened in the last year to that particular stock happened again--it would effect less than 1% of my account equity.
On top of that I use options so that I have an absolute floor to my losses. That works for me. The end result is that when whatever position I’m in is shaking people out, I can wait patiently for my exit point (which is based on an indicator, not an absolute price).
This means that even after adverse moves, I am still, almost always getting out of my positions after some up move. I don’t sell when other are selling, and I don’t buy when others are buying. I do the opposite. It is really one of the keys to trading, to be contrarian, to be alone.
It is hard. If you don’t believe me, try going to the movies by yourself tonight--it’s just not that fun being alone. But in the market, it pays.
And, for all of the numbers junkies like myself. Here is are some results from just 1of the systems that I trade with and without systems. The data looks similar to this for just about all of the systems that I trade.
---------------------------------No Stops-------With Stops (20%)
Compounded Annual Growth--36%--------31%
Max Monthly Draw Down ------6.6%---------7.8%
Sharpe Ratio ------------------2.00---------1.79
% Average Gain ---------------3.2%---------2.8%
% Average Loss ----------------5.1%---------6.9%
This is just one example of many.
Lastly, thanks to everyone who’s been writing me while I haven’t been writing. I got really tied up with taxes, work, blah blah blah.
Good Luck,
Steve
1 Comments:
I too have learned that using stops is a great way to lose money. I have found that if I make what I think are great entries and it goes against me, I will inevitably get stopped out before it turns around and goes back up. I am very careful about not being the "greatest fool" and yet I find that almost every time the trade will initially go against me, sometimes hideously, but it always comes back. For this reason, I have found that "scaling in" works best together with patience.
Sunday, 8 November 2015
Investing Made Simple by Uncle8888 (38)
Read? Investing Made Simple by Uncle8888 (37)
We may have to work harder to reduce our Asymmetrical Thinking over long run to produce better portfolio performance result.
1. Unable to control their emotions over P/L. They are so worry that their paper profit will soon disappear when market shows some sign of turning against them so they are fast to take quick profit but when they are on paper losses; they are so slow and patient. Their patience can withstand decades of sitting on paper losses without worrying too much.
Do we know that when we are very good and discipline at money management and position sizing (No deadly average down). We can only lose 100% of that position when we are deadly wrong; but when we are right and continue to be right for long time; we will make more than enough to recover that few deadly wrong.
Uncle8888 is not preaching theory and concepts here!
It is real and has been done!
2. Seduced by high yield. Is high yield due to high dividend payout? When we are not aware or don't even bother about it. Just happy with the high yield. Shiok! Dividends are coming soon!
Tuesday, 12 February 2008
The Three Vices of Trading
Brett N. Steenbarger, Ph.D.
The following is a short article for Woodie’s CCI traders. It summarizes several of the psychological pitfalls that interfere with accurate pattern recognition. My hope is that CCI traders can focus on these three “vices” as mental preparation prior to entering the markets. One of the best ways of becoming an observer to your negative behavioral patterns—rather than a trader lost in those patterns—is to periodically take your emotional temperature. That means standing back and asking yourself: Am I falling prey to one of the vices below? Remember, observing and interrupting your patterns are the first steps in altering them! Your patterns lose control over you as you become better at not identifying with them. When you become an observer to your patterns, you are separating yourself from them. What great progress that is!
Vice Number One: PERFECTIONISM
Perfectionism is often the chief culprit when the pain of losing exceeds the pleasure of winning. Desperately trying to feel good about themselves, perfectionists set unrealistically high ideals. They think they will finally be OK if they just accomplish X. (For X, you could substitute many things, including looks, wealth, popularity, or achievement). Because X is an unattainable goal, perfectionists ironically use their ideals as a basis for self-criticism when their performance doesn’t match up. After all, is achieving X will make me OK, then I must not be OK if I fail to achieve X. The emotional theme of the perfectionist is “not good enough”. Perfectionists are driven to do more and more because they never feel competent, worthy, and loved as they are. Thus, even when there’s a profit on a trade, perfectionists will look for the portion of the move that they did not participate in. If they caught most the move, they will reprove themselves for not trading a larger position. And when trades don’t go well, perfectionists review all the reasons that shouldn’t have made the trade, should have known better, etc. By focusing on the portion of their performance that doesn’t match their ideals, perfectionists transform successes into defeats, losses into failures. They rationalize their perfectionism as a drive for achievement, but all they are accomplishing is an undercutting of their confidence.
Perfectionism shows up as negative self-talk and self-blaming. Emotionally, we recognize perfectionism from frustrated, angry feelings when trades don’t work out as planned. “Beating myself up” is how many perfectionists describe their self-talk. The way to beat perfectionism is to make a concerted effort to talk to yourself the way you would talk to a good friend in a situation where things went wrong. Most people know how to treat others with respect, love, and dignity. They just haven’t learned to do the same for themselves. If you would be more nurturing, understanding, and supportive of a friend than you are of yourself in the identical situation, then you know that you’re not being your own best friend. If a trade doesn’t work out, the constructive trader focuses on, “What can I learn from this?”—not “What’s wrong with me?”. In Woodie’s language, the best antidote to perfectionism is the ability to reassure yourself, “There will be better trades down the road.” The key is to not miss those better trades while you’re beating yourself up!
Vice Number Two: EGO
Everyone likes to win in the markets. It’s only natural to feel good when you’ve done your homework and end the day with a profit to reward your efforts. Ego involvement in trading, however, goes further than this. When the ego is involved, we write the market a blank check for our self-esteem. If trading is green, we feel good about ourselves; if we go into the red, we feel diminished. That places tremendous pressure on our trading over time. Not only do we have the burden and challenge of reading complex market patterns; now we also have a psychological gun pointed to our head ready to go off any time our pattern recognition fails us.
Most traders are aware of the dangers of trading with too much leverage. A trader accustomed to trading 2 lots, where each tick in the ES is worth $25, would feel overwhelmed jumping to 100 lots, where each tick now moves the account $1250. With the stakes raised to such a degree, the same trade would now no longer feel the same. It would be hard to let a position go against you by a point ($5000, instead of $100), and it would be difficult to let a profit run. When traders invest their feelings about themselves in their trading, they are operating with maximum emotional leverage. In the currency of self-esteem, they trade 100 lots. So much of their emotional account rides on each trade, that it inevitably affects decisions about cutting losses, letting profits run, and entering and exiting in a timely fashion. The successful trader wants their trades to work out; the ego-involved trader needs them to be profitable.
We know that ego threatens our trading when we find ourselves needing to trade just to win back some recently lost dollars; when we feel a desire to advertise our positions; and when we find ourselves riding an emotional roller coaster as profits wax and wane. Just as we can recognize traders’ perfectionism from anger/frustration, we recognize ego-involved traders from euphoria/depression. If trading has us truly depressed, we know that it’s not just our trading account that’s hurting. The antidote to ego-involved trading is to place our self-esteem eggs in many baskets: recreational interests; other work involvements; relationships; and our spiritual lives. Many times we pour our self-esteem into trading because those other facets of our lives are not properly developed. A balanced life makes for balanced trading. In the spirit of Woodie’s CCI Club, we can take some of the ego out of trading by learning from others, by becoming a candle that lights other candles, and by using a portion of market profits to help others make a wish that will come true. If your good feelings in life come from good relationships and worthy achievements, you won’t need the markets for your happiness. Market success can be the frosting on the cake of your successful life, rarely can it substitute to the cake itself.
Vice Number Three: OVERCONFIDENCE
It is common for traders to complain of a lack of confidence in their trading, but very often it is overconfidence that does them in. Overconfidence results from a lack of appreciation of the complexity of markets and an underestimation of the challenges of trading them successfully. In a sense, overconfident traders lack respect for the markets. They think that reading about a few setups or buying the newest software will prepare them to make money. Overconfident traders don’t want to work their way up the trading ladder: they resist the idea that screen time is the best teacher. They also chafe at the idea of growing their account. Rather than start with one contract and wait until they’re profitable before trading larger size, they want big positions—and profits—right away. Because they’re so eager to make money—and so sure they can make it—overconfident traders generally trade impulsively. They won’t wait for the setup to form; they’ll jump the gun—and get whipsawed in the process. Instead of being patient and waiting for short-term patterns to align with longer-term patterns, they will take every trade, enriching their brokers in the process.
The hallmark of overconfident traders is that they think they are going to make something happen in the market, instead of patiently waiting to take what the market gives them. Spelling out profit goals for each day or week of trading is one manifestation of overconfidence. Humble traders know that markets expand and contract their volatility—sometimes the trade just isn’t there. The overconfident trader, however, feels that he/she is bigger than the market. Indeed, overconfident traders will often take great pains to try to catch the tops of bull swings or the bottoms of corrections. As a result, they often fight the market trend—and can get run over in the process. If the emotional signs of perfectionism are anger/frustration and the emotional signs of ego involvement are elation/depression, then the emotional signs of overconfidence are impatience/impulsivity. Overconfident traders overtrade. They fear missing opportunities more than they fear losing money. The antidote to overconfidence is rule-based trading and the intensive rehearsal of trading rules. By making entries, exits, stops, and position sizing rule-governed and vigorously rehearsing trading rules during simulated trading (as well as in real time with small positions), traders can greatly reduce their impulsive trading. Very often this means training oneself to focus on (and rehearse) what-if scenarios of being wrong in the market, as well as forcing oneself to spell out the rationale, targets, and stops for all trades. By making trading a more self-conscious process, traders interpose thought between impulse and action, gaining greater control of their trading. When the trading room admonishes, “No boasting, just posting”, it is encouraging restraint on overconfidence.
Summary
Clearly, the three vices are not completely independent of one another. There can be significant overlap for traders. For example, a trader might take a position out of overconfidence, then hold onto it out of ego-related stubbornness and pride. Whether the vice is perfectionism, ego, or overconfidence, the basic problem is the same: Making the trade about oneself, rather than about the markets. If you are thinking about yourself—how much you’ll make or lose, how well or poorly you’ve done, how much you’re a success or a loser, how much better you could have done—you can’t be fully focused on the markets. It’s not about you. It’s about the setups and the ability to read them. And to read them, you must be one with them, immersed in them, so that you feel them, not just observe them. You can’t feel the markets and become lost in feelings of anger, frustration, elation, guilt, depression, impatience, or impulsive need. The greatest vice in trading is to take it personally, to become so focused on the outcome of trading that you lose sight of the process. If you are fulfilled outside of trading, your other needs will not infiltrate your decision-making and sabotage your entries, exits, and money management. If you build yourself physically, socially, spiritually, and professionally, you will find that the markets won’t need to bear the burden of carrying your identity. At that point, you’ll be able to say (in your best Woodie voice):
We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Vices!
Brett N. Steenbarger, Ph.D. is Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at SUNY Upstate Medical University in Syracuse, NY. He is also an active trader and writes occasional feature articles on market psychology for MSN’s Money site (www.moneycentral.com). The author of The Psychology of Trading (Wiley; January, 2003), Dr. Steenbarger has published over 50 peer-reviewed articles and book chapters on short-term approaches to behavioral change. His new, co-edited book The Art and Science of Brief Therapy (American Psychiatric Press) is due for publication during the first half of 2004. Many of Dr. Steenbarger’s articles and trading strategies are archived on his website, www.brettsteenbarger.com.
Sunday, 29 October 2017
Over Decades As Retail Investors Over Market Cycles
Friday, 8 June 2018
Investors's Mistakes And What We Can Learn From Them
Read? 5 Great Investors' Worst Mistakes (And What They Teach Us)
Read? Here Are Some of the Most Epic Mistakes by Famous Investors: Michael Batnick
What we can learn from these investors' mistakes?
Position sizing, stop losses or cut losses, don't risk more than 10% of your capital on any single stock and not more than 20 or 30% on any sector; do your homework before investing, etc
Investing lessons are learnt from mistakes!
How come we seldom come across investment articles about "mistakes" of selling way too early and missing multi bagger yield on investment cost and multi baggers capital gains?
Hmm ... taking profits off the table is never wrong.
Where got mistakes?
No lesson learnt from selling way too early and missing those big fat gains?
So it is like that?













