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Saturday, 17 February 2018

STI ETF. Passive??? Really??? No Free Lunch and Not Risk Free!!! (2)


Read? STI ETF. Passive??? Really??? No Free Lunch and Not Risk Free!!!

You can call it index investing or passive or outsourcing. When you outsource the task; you don't feel the heat, dirt or the heavy lifting; but you got to pay some fee. Worth paying this fee to managers or pay ourselves when we get our own hand dirty in the market?

Can we DIY mini subset of STI ETF as blue chips uncles or aunties?





























Updated in response to 

Singapore Man of Leisure17 February 2018 at 13:45:00 GMT+8

CW,

You sneaky, sneaky ;)


Your example is a good test on whether one can read "numbers"; especially if readers call themselves "fundamental investors".

1) Right off the bat, someone who invested in unit trusts or ETFs (and know what they are buying into) 
would know your percentages were off. Where got management fees 8.9% one!!!???

Management fees are usually charged as a % of AUM (asset under management) - usually in the 1-2% range ;)

Most people who "invest" in unit trusts and ETFs are in it for the capital gains.


2) On the other hand, your example is great for those who "invests" in unit trusts and ETFs for income. Yup, its like buying a rental property but you too lazy to deal with the tenants. So you hired a property firm to handle the tenants for you - no free lunch - at 8.9% commission of your rentals ;)

Ar ber then? 

Passive what?


LOL!


From the number below; how many retail investors are trading their STI ETF shares for capital gains?






Sunday, 7 April 2013

STI ETF. Passive??? Really??? No Free Lunch and Not Risk Free!!!



STI ETF

Passive???

Really???

No Free Lunch and Not Risk Free!!!


See an example from one of those FAQ on ETF found in Singapore broker's website

What's the difference between the market price and NAV of an ETF?

Net Asset Value (NAV) refers to a ETF's total assets minus its liabilities. It is calculated at the end of each trading day based on the last done price of each constituent stock of the benchmark index. An Indicative NAV (iNAV) is calculated periodically throughout the day.


How are management fees calculated in ETF?

An ETF charges a management fee which is calculated and accrued daily in the Net Asset Value (“NAV”) calculations. This fee will be directly deducted from the assets of the ETF regularly. Most ETF charged their management fees as a Total Expense Ratio (“TER”) which represents the all-in fee that the ETF will pay to the Manager. From the TER, the Manager will pay for all other fees and expenses, such as custodian fee, index-licensing fee and legal expenses, etc. Investors are advised to refer to the prospectuses of individual ETF for information on fees and expenses.



Read? STI ETF - Cost of substitution???

Read all? Rest of them


Ask Uncle8888?

After reading those past blog posts, do you still think that STI ETF really passive?

Not really passive; but affordable for retail investors to do diversification and/or wealth preservation.

Actually, you are just outsourcing your responsibilities for managing your own investment portfolio at costs. Costs over long term will definitely eat into your return.

Absolutely No Free Lunch!!!

Why???

Are you providing more than just lunch for management fee?

Read the above again until you become fully aware.


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Thursday, 14 March 2013

STI ETF - Cost of substitution???

Read? STI ETF - Simple to buy but doesn't mean no emergency exit risk!
 

Thai Beverage to join ST Index after Quarterly Review

Singapore, Mar 7, 2013 - (ACN Newswire) - Singapore Press Holdings Limited (SPH), Singapore Exchange (SGX) and FTSE Group (FTSE) announced today that Thai Beverage will replace IHH Healthcare as a constituent of the Straits Times Index (STI) following the conclusion of the half-yearly review.

The STI reserve list, comprising the five highest ranking non-constituents of the STI by market capitalisation, will be (in order of size) Hutchison Port Holdings Trust, Keppel Land, Ascendas Real Estate Investment Trust, UOL Group and CapitaCommercial Trust. Companies in the reserve list will replace any constituents that become ineligible as a result of corporate actions before the next review.

The STI is widely followed by investors as the benchmark for the Singapore market and is used as the basis of a range of financial products including Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs), futures, warrants and other derivatives.

Several changes were made to other indices in the FTSE ST Index Series including the FTSE ST Maritime and FTSE ST Catalist indices. In the FTSE ST China Top Index, China Minzhong Food Corporation will replace China Aviation Oil Singapore Corporation. Full details of all deletions and additions can be found under the Index Reviews section at www.ftse.com/st.

In September 2012, the FTSE ST Index Advisory Committee approved the introduction of actual free float (rounded up to the next 1%) in the FTSE ST Index Series to limit unnecessary turnover. This change will take effective on the same date of the review changes.

All changes from this review will take effect from the start of trading on 18 March 2013. The next review is scheduled for 6 June 2013.

The indices are reviewed quarterly by the independent FTSE ST Index Advisory Committee, in accordance with the index ground rules. The FTSE ST methodology ensures the indices accurately represent the investable universe for benchmarking purposes and can be easily replicated as the basis of index-linked products.

For more information about the STI and FTSE ST Index Series including index ground rules, please visit www.ftse.com/st.

STI Constituents:

CapitaLand Ltd
CapitaMall Trust
CapitaMalls Asia Ltd
City Developments Ltd
ComfortDelgro Corp Ltd
DBS Group Holdings Ltd
Fraser and Neave Ltd
Genting Singapore PLC
Global Logistic Properties Ltd
Golden Agri-Resources Ltd
Hongkong Land Holdings Ltd
Jardine Cycle & Carriage Ltd
Jardine Matheson Holdings Ltd
Jardine Strategic Holdings Ltd
Keppel Corp Ltd
Noble Group Ltd
Olam International Ltd
Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp Ltd
SembCorp Industries Ltd
SembCorp Marine Ltd
SIA Engineering Co Ltd
Singapore Airlines Ltd
Singapore Exchange Ltd
Singapore Press Holdings Ltd
Singapore Technologies Engineering Ltd
Singapore Telecommunications Ltd
Starhub Ltd
Thai Beverage PCL
United Overseas Bank Ltd
Wilmar International Ltd

Jointly issued by: Singapore Press Holdings Limited, Singapore Exchange Limited, FTSE International Limited.
 
Createweath8888:
 
STI ETF, isn't this a case of buy high and sell low???
 

 

Thursday, 23 September 2010

Can an ETF Collapse?

By: Herb Greenberg

CNBC Senior Stocks Commentator

The question of whether an ETF can collapse is the focus of a fascinating new report by Bogan Associates, an under-the-radar investment firm in Boston.

The concern of the Bogan report, as well as other market participants I’ve been talking to, is that the complexity of exchange-traded funds and their increased use as trading vehicles by hedge funds can be quietly but quickly creating serious market risk.

At the heart of the matter is what stock ETFs really are: Derivatives with unlimited share creation prospects. Unlike regular mutual funds, which buy and sell stocks with the cash from investors, ETFs buy so-called “creation units” from participating institutions. Each creation unit represents 50,000 shares owned by an “authorized participant.”

I can’t stress the complexity of the structure. If the very nature of these “creation units” is beyond the comprehension of most investors the actual mechanics of ETFs involve an even far more complex matrix of transactions.

Harold Bradley, chief investment officer of the Kauffman Foundation, goes so far as to say: “These are like unregulated futures contracts because of their unmitigated open interest.”

The “unmitigated open interest” he’s referring to a startling figure in the Bogan report: That while the SPDR S&P Retail ETF has about 17 million shares outstanding, it has around 97 million shares short. That’s right, more than 500 percent of the ETF is net short.

“This implies total gross ownership of XRT in the market of roughly 96 million shares,” says Andrew Bogan, who co-runs the firm with his father, Thomas, a former interim research director at State Street. “So the assets held by the ETF operator (State Street Research - no relation to State Street Global Partners) in this fund are about $680 million, while the implied ownership of all the long holders would be worth $3.9 billion.

“In this extreme example, the ETF operator holds only about 17 percent of the shares that people most likely believe they are buying when they buy XRT in their account. The remaining stock is implicitly promised by short-sellers though their prime brokers if authorized participants”—the institutions that own the shares behind the creation units—wanted to redeem more than 17 percent of the shares owned.”

In effect, he says, this amounts to a “fractional reserve stock ownership system” and a “shadow market caused by massive scale short-selling.”

The big question: Who will be left holding the bag? Retail investors? Prime brokers? Even Bogan and his co-authors can’t answer that; the data is that unavailable and the issue is that complex.

To repeat what I said in CNBC’s Man vs. Machine segment : Many critics are concerned that ETFs have grown well beyond their original intention and have become a monster that will wreak havoc.

Tuesday, 3 August 2010

OCBC Class B 5.1% Non-Convertible Non-Cumulative Preference Shares

Read? STI ETF - Simple to buy but doesn't mean no emergency exit risk!

Quite like STI ETF - simple to buy but doesn't mean no emergency exit risk!

Perference share is still traded like a stock during bad market condition - its stock price can plunge badly too!

Look at OCBC 5.1% NCPS 100 Weekly chart. It will scare the shits out of you! Even the fund managers have no guts to hold all and have to sell some.


Buying is simple but it may come to haunt you when you unexpectedly need to sell it to meet emergency cash need during very bad market condition. You may be doom!

You love its fixed dividend payment but at what Exit Pricing Risk? There is little capital appreciation and the highest is only $105 when some Greater Fools happened to buy them.

Stock market is a dangerous place to think of just fighting inflation, collecting fixed income and doing capital preservation. We should be doing money and portfolio management and risk control and then aim for both dividends and much higher capital appreciation.

Sunday, 4 July 2010

STI ETF - Simple to buy but doesn't mean no emergency exit risk!

STI ETF is simple to buy at disciplined regular intervals i.e. no need to monitor and time the market; but it doesn't necessary mean no emergency exit risk!

Passive buy-and-hold long-term investors also must take note of your emergency exit risk if you ever need to liquidate huge sum of money from your STI ETF holding in a very bad market condition like the one in Q1 2009.

STI ETF has crashed to the low at $1.50 on 10 Mar 2009

Probably, STI ETF is a good investment strategy for long-term passive investors who want to buy slowly over a long time frame for wealth preservation and then liquidate the wealth slowly over long time frame or pass it as wealth to the next generation.


Read more 5 Myths About ETFs - Part 4

Sunday, 27 June 2010

5 Myths About ETFs - Part 4




If you look at the price volatility of STI ETF monthly chart, it can be damn scary depending when you bought it and when you need to liquidate it to meet unexpected cash expenses arising from life crisis.

It has plunged from monthly high at $3.30 in May 2008 to the monthly low at $1.60 in Feb 2009 and has since recovered to monthly close at $2.93 in Jun 2010


STI ETF is a low cost managed investment fund but it is traded like a stock.

It is volatile too!

It may cause you to lose heavily just like any individual stock when you need to liquidate it at the wrong market condition e.g. in Feb 2009.

Open your mind wide and think!


STI ETF is a low cost but not a low-risk investment and it may potentially cause you lose money when you desperately need the money.

Sunday, 28 March 2010

5 Myths About ETFs - Part 3

STI ETF: Low Risk at Market Return over long term?

5 Myths About ETFs - Part 2

Does STI ETF really give average market return?

I still think that STI ETF is just another beast in the stock market and its behavior is no different from any other beasts in the stock market - some are hares, some are tortoise, and some are dying and waiting to be buried.

If you look at the price volatility of STI ETF, it can be scary depending when you last bought it


Whether you can really make money or not still very much depend on your entry and exit price like any other stocks.

When the market condition is bad and if you need to cash out to meet expenses you will have to exit with losses if you have bought it at higher price.

5 Myths About ETFs - Part 2

5 Myths About ETFs

Beware of Tracking Error Risk when investing in the STI ETF?


Changes in the NAV of the Fund are unlikely to replicate exactly changes in the STI due to factors such as fees and expenses of the Fund, liquidity of the market and changes to the Index.

FTSE Group (FTSE) will conduct half-yearly review of the constituents of the Straits Times Index (STI) so there is always a possibility that new components may be added and some old ones  may be removed. It is also known as survival bias.

For example in the recent review:

Singapore Exchange (SGX), the FTSE Group (FTSE) and Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) announced today that CapitaMalls Asia will replace Cosco Corp Singapore as a constituent of the Straits Times Index (STI) following the conclusion of the half-yearly review.


The STI reserve list, comprising the five highest ranking non-constituents of the STI by market capitalization, will be (in order of size) Keppel Land, Yangzijiang Shipbuilding Holdings, Ascendas Real Estate Investment Trust, Yanlord Land Group and Parkway Holdings. Companies in the reserve list will replace any constituents that become ineligible as a result of corporate actions before the next review.

STI ETF will have no choice but to sell off Cosco and most likely to be losses and buy in CapMall and most likely at higher price.

In this case, STI ETF may be buying high and selling low at every half-yearly review. So beware of tracking error risk when investing in STI ETF.

Tuesday, 19 January 2010

STI ETF: Low Risk at Market Return over long term?


Why do people think that STI ETF is low risk at market return over long term?
Looking at the chart and I can't see any evidence of low risk?

Tuesday, 24 November 2009

5 Myths About ETFs

CreateWealth8888:

Investing in ETFs may not be simple as what you think and you still need to spend fair amount of time and energy to pick the right ETFs that are suitable for your investing goals and horizon; otherwise, it is probably just "blind" investing and hoping for the best.
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by Michael Iachini

Key points


  • Here are five commonly held myths of ETF investing and why it pays to look beyond your first assumptions.
  • Consider carefully what it is you're looking for from an ETF before you buy—and make sure your ETF delivers what you need.
  • Find out whether ETF investing is right for your portfolio needs.
you probably know a thing or two about exchange-traded funds, better known as ETFs. You know that ETFs are basically index mutual funds that trade like stocks. You know that they have low expenses and are easy to trade. You know that they are a cheap, easy, tax-efficient way to get good diversification.


Or you think you know all of that.

In fact, many ETFs may not have all of the good characteristics that you associate with this increasingly popular investment type:

Many ETFs have higher expenses than you might expect.

Some ETFs can be difficult and expensive to trade.

Rather than traditional indexing, some ETFs flirt very openly with active management.

Some ETFs can give you taxable income.

Certain ETFs give you no diversification at all.

Here are five commonly held myths of ETF investing and why it pays to look beyond your first assumptions.


Myth No. 1: All ETFs have low expenses

The first thing that many investors think about when they consider the good qualities of ETFs is the low expenses they carry. This is true for many traditional ETFs, such as the S&P 500 SPDR (SPY), which tracks the S&P 500® index and carries a tiny expense ratio of 0.09%.

But did you know that some ETFs charge much more? For instance, most ETFs that track single-country indexes—such as the iShares for the United Kingdom (EWU), Australia (EWA) and Germany (EWG)—charge 0.52%.

You'll also tend to pay more for funds that are focused on a specific industry, such as the iShares Dow Jones U.S. Oil and Gas ETF (IEO), which charges 0.48%.


Another example: ETFs that follow unconventional indexes, such as WisdomTree DEFA High-Yielding Equity ETF (DTH), which charges 0.58% and weights stocks according to fundamentals like earnings, dividends and cash flow.

ETF expenses currently top out at 1.53% with Claymore/Ocean Tomo Growth (OTR), an ETF that aims to invest in companies that own valuable patents.

The expenses might be worthwhile if you need the specific exposure the ETFs provide, and they are still generally less expensive than many actively managed mutual funds. But be aware: The fact that something is an ETF doesn't necessarily mean it's the cheapest option.

If you're trying to compare expenses between an ETF and a mutual fund, the expense ratio is a good place to start.


Myth No. 2: All ETFs are easy and cheap to trade


Investors also love ETFs because of their liquidity—the ease with which they can be bought and sold. It's true that you can trade ETFs anytime during the day, just like a stock.

But there's a cost to trading, and it's not just commissions. Whenever you buy or sell anything on an exchange, there's a bid-ask spread—the difference between the higher price at which investors are asking to sell and the lower price at which they're offering to buy.

For ETFs that are actively traded all day long, the bid-ask spread tends to be quite small. But less-liquid ETFs (that is, those that are harder to trade) tend to have much larger spreads.

In addition, unlike open-end mutual funds, the price of an ETF doesn't necessarily match the net asset value (NAV) of the securities in its portfolio. The difference is known as the discount or premium to NAV, and it can be very unpredictable.

More-liquid ETFs tend to have smaller discounts and premiums. So while you can trade an illiquid ETF anytime, it might cost more in spreads.

For example, one lesser-known ETF, Claymore/Zacks Country Rotation ETF (CRO)—which tracks an index of international stocks that changes its country focus over time— had an average daily trading volume for the month of July 2009 of only $15,000 per day, with no volume at all on eight of the 22 trading days in the month.

During the same period, the widely traded S&P 500 SPDR (SPY) had an average daily volume of more than $18 billion—over one million times that of the lesser-known fund.

According to data from XTF, the average bid-ask spread for the less-liquid CRO fund during this period was 1.66% of the price of the fund. During the same period, the average bid-ask spread for the ultra-liquid SPY fund was only 0.01%.

If you had accepted the price the market had set each time you traded, it could have cost you 1.66% of your investment to trade CRO but only 0.01% to trade SPY.


Myth No. 3: All ETFs are index funds


You may like ETFs because they're index funds. With an index fund, you get all of the stocks in the index without having to worry about whether the portfolio manager is picking the right securities or not—the manager just buys them all.

However, not all indexes tracked by ETFs are traditional market indexes like the S&P 500.

Some indexes, like the PowerShares Intellidex indexes, are effectively actively managed; the company that puts the index together tries to include only stocks that it believes will outperform the market. And a few truly actively managed ETFs have been launched recently, such as Grail American Beacon Large Cap Value ETF (GVT).

This leaves you open to the possibility that the people or companies assembling the index will be wrong about which stocks will outperform. That's called active management risk, and avoiding that risk is one of the features of indexing that some ETFs fail to provide.

For example, the PowerShares Dynamic Market ETF (PWC), which is a total-market fund (meaning it includes very small to very large companies), has outperformed the total-market Russell 3000® index (which follows the 3,000 largest public US companies) by as much as 2.9% in a single month since its June 2003 launch—but it has also underperformed that index by as much as 4.2% in a single month.

Contrast this with a traditional total-market index ETF, the iShares Russell 3000 Index (IWV), whose returns have been within 0.05% of the index every month in that time period. While the more active fund may outperform a traditional index, the risk of underperforming is present, as well.

One way to tell if you're getting an actively managed fund in disguise is to read the language in the ETF's prospectus describing the index the fund is following. If the index picks stocks that are "expected to outperform," investigate further.

Myth No. 4: All ETFs are tax-efficient


Much has been made of the tax-efficient nature of ETFs, and it's true that they are often more tax-efficient than similar mutual funds.


Myth No. 5: All ETFs give you diversification


Finally, you may like the easy diversification provided by an ETF—by making one trade, you suddenly have a well-diversified domestic equity portfolio. This is certainly true for many ETFs. For instance, by buying one share of the iShares Russell 3000 Index (IWV), you gain exposure to nearly all stocks in the US markets.



This isn't true of all ETFs, though. Very narrow ETFs may provide you with very little diversification. iShares Dow Jones US Energy (IYE) looks diversified with 76 holdings, until you realize that more than half of its assets are concentrated in just five stocks! Buying shares of a gold (IAU, GLD) or silver (SLV) ETF gives you access to exactly one asset.



Generally speaking, the more narrowly defined the index, the less diversification it gives you. You can find the percentage of a fund concentrated in its top 10 holdings in the ETF Visual Screener on Schwab.com.



Myths debunked

Now you understand that not all ETFs are alike. Although many ETFs are good tools for providing inexpensive, highly liquid, tax-efficient diversification without taking on active management risk, some ETFs fail to live up to this billing.



Consider carefully what it is you're looking for from an ETF before you buy—and make sure your ETF delivers what you need
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