I started serious Investing Journey in Jan 2000 to create wealth through long-term investing and short-term trading; but as from April 2013 my Journey in Investing has changed to create Retirement Income for Life till 85 years old in 2041 for two persons over market cycles of Bull and Bear.

Since 2017 after retiring from full-time job as employee; I am moving towards Investing Nirvana - Freehold Investment Income for Life investing strategy where 100% of investment income from portfolio investment is cashed out to support household expenses i.e. not a single cent of re-investing!

It is 57% (2017 to Aug 2022) to the Land of Investing Nirvana - Freehold Income for Life!

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This blog is authored by an old multi-bagger blue chips stock picker uncle from HDB heartland!

"The market is not your mother. It consists of tough men and women who look for ways to take money away from you instead of pouring milk into your mouth." - Dr. Alexander Elder

"For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." - Aristotle

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Friday 26 January 2018

Trading Or Long Term Investing??? Market Timing Or Time In The Market???

Two relevant questions which newbies may like to know.

For retail who are already on their full time job, should they be trading, long-term investing or doing both?

Retail trading is sexy!

It is craftsmanship. You constantly improving on your trading skills by tuning, refining and re-tuning your trading parameters. You keep improving your Entries and Exits. When you made into 10% of retail traders who are successful and consistently profitable; and then you can go around to poke the other 90% of failed retail traders who turned into long wrong term investors who are investing long term to break even. 

Trading is sexy! Read? Kep Corp : Bought @ $9.64 for Round 95

Every now and then; you can  post how you made money from trading. Sexy. Right?

But ..... and when trading failed!

Then trading turned into long wrong term investing to break even!

This is real life example of a failed trader turning wrong term investor!

Market timing is important. Wrong entries then you spent time in the market to break even.

Retail long term investing is boring!

Even you are successful retail investor; it is still boring as there is no craftsmanship to shout loud. What are those investing parameters to tune, refine or re-tune?

No! Right?

In investing; you better say luck factor plays the important role in your stock pick. 

When you are lucky and enter at the depressed right stock price (You didn't time the market; it is just plain luck)  with the right stocks; you spend time in market collecting "passive" income and recovering your capital; but there is no craftsmanship to show. 

Boring! Right?

What you collect is dividends and paper gains. Paper gain is not real. Right?



  1. Ang moh say: U wanna be right, or u wanna make money??!?

    Uncle8888 say: U wanna be sexy, or u wanna make $$$$$$??!?

    Newbie say: I wanna be both!!!

    1. CW and Spur,

      Botak says, "You figure it out yourself what works best for you. Don't let others tell you what you can or cannot do!"



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