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Tuesday, 14 November 2017

2007 vs 2017. Ten Years Later!


On first look; it appeared that Uncle8888 has encountered his first lost decade in the stock market with little growth in his investment portfolio.

 What is difference between 11 Oct 2007 (Bull Market STI at 3,876) vs 14 Nov 2017 (Bullish market STI at 3,399)?

 Lost decade?

Posted by Createwealth8888 at 22:06
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  1. Spur15 November 2017 at 13:04:00 GMT+8

    Uncle8888,

    You exited more than 1/3 your stocks in 2014 & early-2015, hence you more or less escaped the full impact of 2015 to Feb-2016 drawdown. :)

    At the same time, without going back into stocks in early-2016 & preferring to keep plenty of dry gun powder for "blood in the streets" situation, you also skipped the recent upsurge. That's the price to pay for hedging / insurance.

    Anyway the important thing to do is to stick to your plan. Markets do occur in waves, up & down. Payday is simply a matter of waiting! LOL!

    As don't need to depend on dividends or trading, hence should be easier for you to maintain the master plan. And not try to 2nd guess or jump the gun or use methodology that doesn't jive with your temperament & psychology.

    As for STI numbers, let me offer some consolation to those really B&H types.

    STI itself doesn't give the whole picture as it doesn't include dividends. I prefer to use MSCI S'pore Net Returns index for performance with after-tax dividends re-invested:

    Oct 2007: 10,120
    Oct 2017: 12,718
    10 year annualized return: 2.31% p.a.

    Ok ok ... if you talk about REAL inflation-adjusted returns ... then it's flat. Hohoho!!

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  2. Spur16 November 2017 at 00:19:00 GMT+8

    Hi Temperament,

    No need maths for this ... If buy SPY at Oct 2007 top & just hold on, will still make plenty of gains ... a 2-bagger.

    And without adding a single cent more, and also spend the dividends every quarter.

    SPY chart from Oct 2007 till mid-Nov 2017

    Dividends not re-invested. :)

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  3. Singapore Man of Leisure16 November 2017 at 17:06:00 GMT+8

    temperament,

    Ya sure! With hindsight everyone is a genius!

    That's why the US librarian smart. After going through a -50% drawdown in 2009, you think she wants to go through it again?

    100% out of equities - market goes higher, she can sleep soundly knowing she has enough.

    Market goes down -50% again? Well, she can also sleep soundly knowing she got the cash to play wash, rinse, repeat ;)


    Buy-and-Hold works better for those who have another 20-30 years of working life ahead of them. Even when money stuck rotting in equities, can have day job to earn more and save more. Can wait for salted fish to come back alive!

    But at our age?

    How much % of your networth in equities?

    See?

    You not trusting Buy-and-Hold 100% too ;)






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