As from April 2013 my Journey in Investing is to create Retirement Income for Life till 85 years old in 2041 for two persons over market cycles of Bull and Bear.

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"The market is not your mother. It consists of tough men and women who look for ways to take money away from you instead of pouring milk into your mouth." - Dr. Alexander Elder

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Saturday, 10 November 2018

The Next Market Cycle Of Bear To Bull To Prove My Investing Strategy Right Or Wrong!

Read the Past and Forecast the Future!

Let see whether the next Great SGX Sales is worth more than 10 years of rotting cash waiting for it to happen. 

Super long wait!

Super test of endurance and patience in receiving low return from war chest!


  1. CW,


    Well, I didn't need to wait long :)

    I didn't want to answer you directly when you asked rhetorically are there any other motivations beside investing to escape and investing to achieve?

    Well, you have answered yourself ;)

    1. LOL!

      Let see what Temperament will say?

    2. CW,

      Eh? Now you want to hide behind temperament?

      We may say we just want income more than expenses... Enough can oredi!

      But deep down we know if we use our portfolios at 2009 prices as index 100, bei kambings who are 100% vested since then have beaten us old fogeys hands down - in percentage terms ;)

      The strength of youth is they do not know what cannot be done!

      You have achieved escape velocity; something is still missing right?

      Don't worry. Those who achieved FIRE at age 35 laggi have bigger problem finding what to do do for the next 60 or more years!!!


      This is classic!

      Set goals, achieved goals. Then ask why do I get up in the mornings ;)

    3. So it is binary. LOL!

      We either trade or invest to escape or achieve.

      First to escape and then to achieve.

      Bravo SMOL! Clap x 3!

    4. CW,


      Now that's a quick but "fake" capitulation ;)

      If you really believed it was binary in the first place, you would not have asked me...

      I only said you have answered your own question yourself; I did not say what you doing now is "to achieve" ;)

      OK, better stop teasing you!

      Anyway, no one listens to what we say - we can say whatever we want!

      People listen to what we do.

      Your many powerpoints and what you intend to do speak volumes on your motivations :)

  2. Remember we the super relax warrior can't compare exactly with the hit and run warrior.

    "Liu de qing san zai, bu pah mei chai sau".

    "Pardon my hanyu pin in"

    We can only nimble when market goes crazy everynow and then.

    When really there appear the black swan, make sure U are not caught doing something else

    So simple isn't it!?

  3. As i have said before, i never bother about to achieve or to escape or what?

    i just want a piece of the cake.

  4. Maybe trade / invest to escape boredom & achieve an endorphin hit? LOL!


    For your method to "win" against someone who invested fully 10 years ago & re-invested dividends along the way ... the market need to drop by at least another 57%.

    For someone who started later in Jan 2010, your method "wins" as long as the market drops another 36%.

    This presumes having the mental & financial capacity to go "all in" (or at least big big) when markets drop that much. ;)

    The method probably suitable for those who have already achieved the required quantum of retirement cash, or those with shorter investment timeframe, or those hoping to strike "lottery" for FIRE purposes etc.

    For those with much longer timeframe e.g. 20s, early-30s, or those intending to leave legacy for grandkids etc maybe easier to just stay invested & invest regularly over the years.

    If cannot take market volatility, just maintain 30% or 40% cash/govt bonds portion, and re-balance once or twice a year. ;)

    Of course can implement these 2 different methods in your portfolio (bucket approach), but Uncle8888's method requires a substantial amount else the reward-to-opportunity cost may not be worth it. "your a/c size really matters" ;)

    1. STI compound return from 1996 to 2017 is 6.5%. Passive STI ETF investing may be about 5 to 6%. May be next market cycle; try STI ETF to verify.


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